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Asmo



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its always a good idea that on such serious injuries to go to the ER Wink The old masters also had regular practice needed to treat broken bones. And when they became available, the old masters also started using XRay machines. These two most of us don't have access too (regular practice, XRay machines).

Other then that, dit da jow, trauma pills and yunnan baiyao are the least of herbal medicines I would suggest to have on stock. I also would say add ching wang hung (do this form my head now, might be mistyped) against burns.

Also with these herbals, especially the first two, its important you know about the stages injuries go through from a TCM point of view. Tom Bisio's book goes in depth on these so if the knowledge doesn't come through your sifu get the book Smile

A basic knowledge of acupressure also comes in handy. I highly recommend a book by Michael Reed Gach, Dutch to English -> Acupressure. He also has book on mental issues etc, but his general acupressure book is really good. It goes more in depth then Tom Bisio's book (who has a good introduction however).
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asmo wrote:
I think its always a good idea that on such serious injuries to go to the ER Wink The old masters also had regular practice needed to treat broken bones. And when they became available, the old masters also started using XRay machines. These two most of us don't have access too (regular practice, XRay machines).


Ha! Now I see how my quick comment could sound a little absurd. Of course, getting my son to the ER was top priority. Herbal treatment alone would never substitute modern medical care in this case. Very Happy

I have, however, been able to apply liniments as first aid for a broken bone, which greatly helped reduce the swelling of the injured area before professional medical attention could be given. In fact, when my daughter broke her arm (about an inch above the elbow) I applied liniment to the area first then got her to a local clinic, who then sent me to a children's hospital. The elbow was discolored because of the herbs, which I had to explain to everybody what it was I used and why her arm was deep purple. Over five hours later, after the surgeon finished pinning the elbow, one of the doctors who assisted him asked me what it was I used and where she could buy it. After seeing the break, she expected the elbow to have been twice as swollen as it was when she arrived at the hospital.

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Other then that, dit da jow, trauma pills and yunnan baiyao are the least of herbal medicines I would suggest to have on stock. I also would say add ching wang hung (do this form my head now, might be mistyped) against burns.


That's another one of Bisio's items listed in his essential first aid kit. I keep a tube handy as well as a larger container for larger burns. Great stuff... but I still can't get used to the smell.

Asmo wrote:
Also with these herbals, especially the first two, its important you know about the stages injuries go through from a TCM point of view. Tom Bisio's book goes in depth on these so if the knowledge doesn't come through your sifu get the book Smile

A basic knowledge of acupressure also comes in handy. I highly recommend a book by Michael Reed Gach, Dutch to English -> Acupressure. He also has book on mental issues etc, but his general acupressure book is really good. It goes more in depth then Tom Bisio's book (who has a good introduction however).


Thanks for the recommendation. I have the Foreign Language Press book, "Chinese Acupuncture and Moxibustion." I must admit, though, that I have not studied it deeply. Lately, I've been studying Dr. Yang Jwing Ming's books and he includes information here and there on pressure points, healing, and massage. If only I had time to study all of these areas of interest in depth!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The book I recommended is easy to use, and in my own experience uses points that work for general use (I mean, without a complicated diagnosis based on TCM, which is impossible without proper (university level) training). There are a zillion books on acupressure and related medicines with varying levels of knowledge required and practicability.

There is a big difference between Dit Da medicine and the TCM that is used to diagnose and treat deseases froma TCM point of view. Generally with Dit Da the problem to be treated is quite easy to diagnose. Its the nature of sportsmedicine. A torn muscle, broken bone, bruise, etc. Deseases in TCM are quite different. It requires a long study in TCM and knowledge of ying yang, the elements, the meridians, etc. to diagnose and treat them properly. In China this is university level knowledge, although I understood more high level schools are also available to us in the West.

Michael Reed Gach's the only one I would recommend to friends and family. It has a large lists of problems, then an indepth explanation on how to find the points for that particular problem. It also lists what to do else for that problem. And also when not to use certain points (in case of pregnancies for example). Its written and usable for people who have no prior knowledge but still the treatments are generally very effective.
So without the knowledge required to make a full diagnosis and treatment plan he lists a treatment that sofar in my experience generally works really well. His treatments lists quite a few points, instead of just a few which I found many of the other books often do.

It also has treatments for practically all common problems you might encounter. Skinproblems, fear, fainting, tensed shoulders, hickups, hangover, tooth aches, knee pains, tired eyes, pregnancy problems, etc etc.

But if in your experience your book works, then by all means stick to it of course! Smile

BTW, what I love about acupressure is that often it works really well on its own (although best would be a combination of therapies, both acupressure as well as herbs), and it doesn't require to have anything else then just a bit of knowledge and experience. If you keep grabbing a book like this on problems in time you will know the most used points and how to apply pressure to them. Always ready for use, nothing else required.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:59 am    Post subject: Michael Reed Gach Reply with quote

Woudn't you know... I just found Michael Reed Gach's website at www.acupressure.com. Easy enough.

Thanks again for the tip!
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