Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:58 am Post subject: Re: Teacher of the children from Saam Soi basic school
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Yo - isn't that GGFF?
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Hi, special in chinese countryside Choi Lei fat have form with name Gung Ji but they said it's other than Hung Gaa. One of that sifu he does CLF and Hung Gaa to. He showed to me Gung Ji from CLF and he said, he practise HG gung ji to. And this guy said: The essence of that forms isn't same:D I am going to China next week for longer time. I can do some research work
That is Fuk Fu Keun, the first half Gung Ji isn't there. But how is that a Buk Sing Choi Lei Fut form? Maybe a Buk Sing CLF teacher has this form but as it is there is no Choi Lei Fut influence on it, just an add on and not part of the Buk Sing CLF system, just an isolated incident. Chan Family Choi Lei Fut though does have a full form called Gung Ji Fuk Fu, and it is modified to be Choi Lei Fut... interesting interpretation! Here's a link to that:
Id say it came into the system somewhere between Chan Heung and Chan Yiu Chi, most likely CYC as he did the most expansion to the system, but definitely someone introduced it there at sometime.
How does Fuk Fu come from Lama Pai? Just 2 techniques in the form are Lama strikes, which he flipped over like CLF's Pau Chui and are the only moves in his form that even remotely resemble CLF, the rest is Hung Ga Keun!
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I saw more BSCLF sifu from country side do FFK. I didn´t care from where it takes. Next time I could ask. But I think I know their answer, he he.
Anyway you are not rigth with no any ifluence of CLF there because definitely you can see really strong flavoring of CLF if you look how he is doing his movements.
Anyway you are not rigth with no any ifluence of CLF there because definitely you can see really strong flavoring of CLF if you look how he is doing his movements.
I have looked at how he is doing his movements, and can identify everything that is or not present. If you practice some CLF then you will know that is not CLF. The structure of CLF is different from Hung Ga, and the way of moving is too. A strong flavoring of CLF? Then practice more CLF to be able to explain that. Its not about an opinion, its about the fundamentals of CLF that make it what it is. Is there full extension? Is there torque? Is there false/true? Is there coiling? Is there floating/sinking? No there is none of that or any other CLF fundamentals in that form.
The clip I just posted, not being a question of good or bad, shows a version that has been highly modified to display a CLF version of the form. There is no Hung Ga left in that display.
I do see what your seeing, though I feel is a result of underdeveloped Hung Ga rather than influenced Hung Ga... but sure it could be looked at from either side.
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